Gilmore Girls - Season 2 Episode 6

[00:00:03] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast. We're just a couple of crooners.

[00:00:33] I know that it, you know what? I think it's because Chad didn't drive down this week. Do you think that's what it is? I was gonna say it feels like it's been a while. You know, I know we do this every week. Chad drives down. He's been staying in Greenville. But he's not here this week and maybe that's why it feels like, I don't know, two months since I've seen it. You know what I mean? Right, yeah. It's just like Crosby, Stills, and. You're missing Nash right now, right? Ampersand. Ampersand. Ampersand. Yeah, we do. We overstand and ampersand. That's exactly right.

[00:01:01] Chad, how are you, buddy? Merry Christmas. Can I say that to you? Thank you. We're getting close to the halfway mark. Very exciting. Has Seth gotten the first grade yet? That, Seth, the Christmas Cousin podcast is still stuck in Kringle Kindergarten. That's crazy. He still has not watched the Bluey Christmas special? He watched it perhaps one to four times. We did watch it at all. We could not get a correct answer with what happened. He watched a 40 minute Bluey episode and they're all seven minutes.

[00:01:31] So you try to figure it out. I don't know what happened. There's a 40 minute one in there, isn't there? Isn't there one long one? There's one. The longest one, I think, is still less than 30 minutes. God, man. I just know he puts on like dark side of the mood and syncs it up with the Bluey and it's like a whole thing. Yeah, I was going to ask if he would like- Perhaps he did like, did he find like a compilation on YouTube? Is that what he did? I was going to ask if maybe Seth spends his free time medicinally enhanced and- Yes, he does. And he doesn't quite get to the things he thinks he's going to get to.

[00:02:01] So you've listened to the show and you're his cousin as well, clearly, because that's exactly how it goes. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, man. We're cheering for him and we'll be here to- At this rate, maybe by the time we all die, he'll get there. Right. Yeah. And his funeral will be also his Christmas cousin's graduation. That's right. It'll be both hands. We'll bury him in the cap and gown. But the good news is speaking of graduating, look at the Instagram, not Christmas, the Gilmore

[00:02:28] the Marrier pod on Instagram crushing it over 70,000 views our last year. I know. Because I just wondered if that's matching Bentleys. I know. Bentleys. Wow. Matching ones. Did you get him skinned with Gilmore the Marrier on the side? Of course. Nothing classes up a Bentley like getting him skinned with a logo. That's true. You know what I mean? That's Gilmore. Yeah. Progressive auto insurance. Oh, okay. I assume I got the the- Yes. Yeah, you got the the-

[00:02:56] Now, I want to read some comments, Dan, because our most recent reel was about you not being sold on Jess, if you remember. So, very rarely do I have this problem, but I do feel like I was clipped a bit out of context. Did you feel like I set you up? I feel like I was set up just a hair by Bran on vacation. I didn't cut out anything. That's true. That's true. That was a- Well, you didn't. It's controversial.

[00:03:23] Well, I say a bit, because I want to be very, very clear. I do think Milo is a talented actor, and I do think that the Jess character could become one of my favorites. What I was trying to say was, it was that he- the character didn't feel like he belonged in this world. And not in like a, well, he's new in town. Not like that. In a, every other character has a rhythm to their dialogue that's very snappy, and when we get to Jess, everything comes to a screeching halt.

[00:03:52] And that's what it felt like. All right. Bran is so happy because he has next week's reel already done. That's right. Two minutes into the show. Yeah. It's like me going, why I hate Jess. What's so funny is I fully anticipated the Jess reel to do as well as the Suki reel and whatever the reel was before that. Where I'm glazing, just glazing about how grace- I was kind of, I was, I was hoping that the Jess stands would come out of the woodwork, and some of them did.

[00:04:22] Right. Like, like Julie, who says, Daniel. I don't know Julie either. Why you gotta do this to us, GG fans? Oh, gee. Jess is the team to be on. Yeah. Please, please get there soon. You're breaking our hearts. I'm not saying I won't end up on Team Jess, but right now, like his intro felt like a, the cool thing about Gilmore Girls is, within its world it feels real, and it feels like nothing else really matters. But it doesn't feel like real life. Yeah.

[00:04:51] If I were to compare it to conversations you and I have, they don't, it doesn't match up. But in the world of Gilmore Girls, everything feels the same way, and so it feels real. Jess doesn't feel like it's part of Gilmore Girls. Yeah. He doesn't feel that way. Although you guys, I've hung with you. You do have that fast, witty repartee back and forth. You are kind of Gilmore Girls. That's maybe why I like the show so much. I thought you guys were both written by Amy Sherman Palladino. Sometimes there are breaks, like when I explain about the actual atomic bomb to Brantley. Right. Brantley thought Oppenheimer was fiction.

[00:05:21] I didn't know it was that atomic. He did. That's not a bitch. Really? I didn't know it was that. We're sitting in the swimming pool, the two weeks before Oppenheimer comes out, our kids are swimming and he goes, so tell me about this bomb. This Manhattan Project thing. Yeah. True story. I didn't really say I know about the atomic bomb. I didn't know it was that atomic bomb is all I'm saying. Right. Tell me about this bomb. This bomb. Lovely world. I love that world.

[00:05:50] Kira says, tell me you've never been a teenage girl without telling me that you've never been a teenage girl. And also calling the Jess a Tristan replacement is effing wild. That's why. That's my other problem. No way. Tristan wishes. I'm not saying Jess is less cool than Tristan or whatever. I'm saying that very, very specifically they were setting up a Tristan Dean Rory love triangle.

[00:06:18] And Tristan went on to get popular. And so this is a direct actor. Like we need another person for this triangle. So in I'm not saying that Jess is a Tristan replacement. Like he's supposed to be that caliber. I'm saying that in a very overtly specific love triangle way, the third leg of the love triangle left. They needed a third leg. That is why they wrote Jess.

[00:06:48] Right. Do you think was there a whole plan for Tristan? Like through the series. And then last minute they had to like change. I don't know. We got another regular. We'll try to get like a writer on here at some point. And let's just get Chad. Chad, come on in. It's hard. It's hard to know when to interview people while doing the show because you guys haven't seen the show. And so I want to make it's hard to know what to do. But come follow us over on the Instagram. Gilmore the Marrier pod. Yeah, it's blowing up.

[00:07:17] You don't want to be late to the party. Over 100 reviews, but reviews have kind of slowed down a little bit, guys. We're only at 107. But we're all five stars. Even after my Jess thing, there's no one. I thought for sure we'd have. I'm so used to being me. I'm so used to there being, you know, at least, you know, a handful of Dan sucks. Why is he so mean? And I can't believe we don't have it yet. And if you do that place for that to deck the hallmark. That's right. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Still give us five stars. Yeah.

[00:07:46] What's a review? Do we have a recent one? May 17th. So recent. Yes. My comfort TV show. I watch Gilmore Girls when my brain won't stop running. Listening to them watch it for the first time brings me joy thinking just wait to see what comes next. Nice. That's from Debbie Joe 05. Debbie Joe. And don't forget, guys, as we get to 200 ratings and reviews at Bramble Fest, the big festival coming up in July, we'll be eating Twinkies live on stage.

[00:08:14] You have to go back and hear that episode and possibly a dump tank. I love that you are holding out hope. Chad, the math is not on your side here, sir. Right. What is it right now? It is. When did we start this? It's the 10th. It's the third. It's the third of June. The Gilmore the Mary. Yeah, it is. And so you have to the 10th, to the 17th, the 24th, to the 1st, to the 8th. Show off. To the 15th. It's basically six weeks until Bramble Fest Eve. Okay.

[00:08:42] That would be too late for a dunk tank. You would really need probably more. Probably too late for a dunk tank, but we could still get the Twinkies. The Twinkies I think we could make still work. Okay. It's 15 and a half reviews per week, but now if we're getting 70,000 views and reels, that's a very small percentage. I think we can get it done. So come on, everybody. Give a review. If you've already given a review, sign up for a new like Apple account and get us a second review. I mean, that's like one also 1% of the 78.8 K of viewers of the Suki real. Suki real people. This is a review.

[00:09:12] Now we've just cut straight to every podcast everywhere going. Why don't we have more listeners? Why don't we have more listeners? Well, that's the deal. There you go. Yeah. All right, here we go. Gilmore girls season two, episode six. This one is called presenting Laura like Gilmore. Of course. And it aired on November six, 2001. And it went a little something like this. Where are we at? We're gone. Ghosts. But why?

[00:09:42] There's there's John. I see me. I see you. Yeah, I know you can see me. I know what I'm doing here. I know what I'm doing here. Not that camera. Hey, go watch on YouTube. You'll see what just happened there. The Gilmore girls show up to Friday night dinner and Richard and Emily don't even seem to notice that they're there because they're having a big argument over whether or not Emily's social calendar is important or not. They see that they're there. It is so embarrassing.

[00:10:12] And the arguments keep coming. The next morning they walk into Luke's and they see Luke demanding that just go up and change when he comes down in a Metallica shirt. So embarrassing. Metallica shirts are so uncool. Emily is hanging out with her friends and they're all giving her a hard time for missing

[00:10:36] events due to Richard's work schedule when Rory shows up and when they see her, they all demand that she comes out. What does that mean? I'm coming out. Coming out of where you ask? Well, apparently in high class society, a life that, you know, I think Chad probably knows more than you and I do, Dan, but I've hung with you to, you know, high class. The real behind the scenes. Yes.

[00:11:05] I believe it's a Cotillin. Yeah. Cotillin. Cotillin. Remember one of Dan's favorite smells is a new smell. One of your favorite smells is a new car smell. I mean, that's just like, that's Chad high money, guys. It's a new Hyundai. Chad's a new car. That is true. He's all fun. What is coming out? You ask? Well, apparently in high class society, you present a lady at, in this case, the debutante ball. The daughter of the American Revolution debutante ball.

[00:11:31] And she is officially a woman when you do this. It sounds icky to me, but she's coming out. Happy pride, everybody. Lorelai finds out about this. This is exactly right. Lorelai finds out about this and is like, ain't no way I'm letting you do that. But Rory insists that she really wants to do this. Lorelai just does not understand. But she says, I really want dad to come.

[00:11:58] And so Lorelai calls Christopher fully expecting him to not be able to, or for something to come up and for him not to show up. But he says he's there. And shockingly, he does show up. And even more shockingly, he shows up in a car, not on his motorcycle. And even the most shocking thing, he has a job. It's hard. It's hard not to notice the sparks are flying between Lorelai and Christopher, especially

[00:12:22] when they show off their ballroom dancing skills at a ballroom dancing class that Rory and what's his name went to? Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Dean. Well, when you see up here, when they get to the ball, they're both looking great. They're both looking fancy, talking about Christopher and Lorelai here. And they're both having flirty, flirty fun time. But Emily and Richard aren't having flirty, flirty fun time. In fact, they are having the opposite of that.

[00:12:51] They are arguing about how busy he is. And just as the event is about to start, Lorelia looks back and sees that her parents are still arguing. They go out of the room. He says, You don't know how crazy work has been. You don't know the stress that I'm under. And she says, I do know that the stress you are under. And he's like, oh, you do, do you? I'm being phased out of the business. I created phasing out. I know what it looks like. And this is what it looks like.

[00:13:20] And Emily says, so what? Oh, that does not go well. It's like one minute you're recording in Greenville. The next minute you're recording remotely. You know, it's being phased out. That's not our doing. We don't want to. Yeah, we can't hear you. You're breaking up. Yeah, you're breaking up. So Emily is like, so what? You're not actually breaking up. That was a joke. I was doing the phasing out. My audio is normally terrible. I heard you messing with your mic.

[00:13:49] I was like, uh-oh, he thinks he's actually breaking up. Seriously, Chad, we can't. I haven't heard a word you said today. It's a whole series. They all rushed in to watch Rory walk down with Christopher. And Emily whispers to Lorelai, that should have been you. And she walks off. And shut up and you. As the evening comes to an end, Lorelai tells Christopher that she likes to see him. And now that she's, I like to see you. I like to see you.

[00:14:16] And now that you're living in Boston, perhaps I could like to see you even more. And they end up having a little kiss. And then she says, maybe you should stay. And he says, it's tempting, but I have to get back to Boston for work and for someone else. And it's getting kind of serious. They're living together. Uh-oh. She handles it well. Yeah, I know. She handles it well.

[00:14:44] But when he walks off, you can see a little bit of pain in her eyes. The Gilmore girls are back at Luke's laughing as they watch Jess clean the diner wearing one of Luke's flannels and a backwards hat. I guess better than the Metallica shirt. Lorelai tells Rory that she's happy that she has somebody to complain to when life gets hard. And that leads Lorelai going to Emily's house the next day just to hang.

[00:15:12] She tells Emily that if she's ever needs somebody to talk to, she is there. And that, my friends, was Gilmore Girls Season 2 Episode 6 presenting Lorelai Gilmore. We did it. Don't even try. Break it up there, Chad. All right. Let's take a break. We're going to come back. We're going to break this episode down here on Gilmore and Marrier. That was embarrassing. It was so embarrassing. And her name's on the screen. Oh, I forgot.

[00:15:41] We just recorded last week. Hi, everybody. We're back. We're back. Yes. This is Gilmore the Marrier. Deck the whole Marrier. If you're watching on YouTube, don't pay attention to the logo. The logo, it says, that's why I said it. I mean, it does drop on both feeds. So I wanted to remind you of that, I guess. All right. Let's talk about this episode. Before we do that, in the chat, Laura says, Oh, hey, chat. How many reviews for a debutante ball at Bramble Fest?

[00:16:07] Well, I wanted on the record that I wanted to have a masquerade ball at Bramble Fest, and I was outvoted. For a live recording, watching and recording of Gilmore the Marrier. That would have been awesome. I just wanted a masquerade ball in general. I don't really care. You were really big, and there was a fever you had for like two weeks where you were always talking about a masquerade ball. It was just weird. Wow. You still got it? You still got it? Well, I still got it. I just said, well, why keep harping on it?

[00:16:37] I'm clearly going to lose this battle. Man, we can do a two-person one, and whoever wants to join, joins. I'll do it with you. Masquerade ball. We need 108 reviews. We're doing it. I'll let Chad and you do the schedule for Bramble Fest. Okay. All right. That's going to be great. Yeah. No, I think that would be fun. We have a lot going on. A lot of things planned. How are the Gilmore the Marrier pajamas going? We're having a live episode recording Friday night in Gilmore Girls pajamas. I didn't look at those.

[00:17:03] Are we doing one giant pair where the three of us fit in together? I don't think we're all sharing a pair of pajamas, Chad. You don't think? You're not sure? How much would it cost to have somebody make that for us? One giant pajama? We each have our own legs. Right. But it's connected. We're connected by shirt? No. The pant, it's got six legs. Mm-hmm. It's a big waist. Mm-hmm.

[00:17:33] It's six legs and a big waist? Is that what you're saying? Those are the pants. Yes. And then the arm. Yeah, it can work. This can work perfectly. Yeah. T-shirt palace. Stop. We got to get accustomed. I'm not wearing it. Someone out there listening, you can sew. Why are you so against everything that I say today? That's not. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You said no to masquerade ball. What else? No to giant pants. Yeah. You want us to wear one waistband that has six leg slots in it? Yes. And a giant shirt.

[00:18:02] And one giant shirt. So there's two arm holes? I think the person in the middle still needs some. Yeah. I would like my own. I'm in the middle. So I would like my arm somewhere. I don't know what you're describing. I'm not trying to be against it. That's exactly right, Dan. I don't know what I'm describing. It's never been done before. No one's done it before. No one's done it. Walking on stage. Carefully. Carefully. Yes. Someone has to be able to make this.

[00:18:32] Yeah, we could do it. I'm like Debbie Downer for just asking me the question. Maybe we should all wear our own pajamas. You asked a question after you said no. It's two normal legs. You said no first. Picture this, Dan. Your two legs are in one, and I have one of my legs next to your legs, and my leg is in the other pant leg next to Brian's both legs. Okay, so now that was there. I said we all have our own legs. You're talking about a three-legged race. There's a budget here, guys. Yeah. Two legs. You can't do six legs.

[00:19:01] If we have Gilmore Girls fabric, we can have it made in anything we want to. Thank you. Right. Why don't we just get these? Because it's a coward's way out, and it's $44.99. You think a custom-made six legs, one elastic band pajamas pants is going to be less than $150? I see one right here for $46 on eBay. Really? With one giant pair of Gilmore the Marriott pajamas. Six legs in those pants, Chad. Free shipping. Wow. Six legs and eight arms is even two extra. Order it. We'll pay you back.

[00:19:30] A seamstress. If there is a seamstress out there that can see my vision and make it come to life, contact us. Brandon, anyone in the chat can help? Yeah. I mean, this is a great idea. Are there any seamstresses out there, Dan? You're just no fun, Daniel Thompson. Thank you, Lisa. Whitney says, yes, wear your own pajamas. Thank you, Whitney. Maren says, can rig help with the pajama pants? Yes, rig it.

[00:19:58] Uh, Jax and Patrick shared her jumper during the marathon, Laura said. Okay. Whitney says she's getting Gilmore Girls Jamie's. Okay. So there you go. Okay. Well, we'll figure it out. We have no actual help there. I want to be very clear. A seamstress listening or watching. Brandon, deck, dogma.com. This is crazy. Let's just buy three pairs of pajamas. I can order them right now and they'll be here. I don't understand what we're doing. Let's wait and see if we need to. Okay. Yeah. This is our version of manifest destiny.

[00:20:28] It must be done. Manifest destiny. I think just manifesting is all you're looking for. You want us to hold. Either way. Whatever works. You think God has given us the West. Yes. Okay, cool. Great. God has given me this idea for the pants. At the very least. It's a clear vision. And you know how hard that is for me to have. This isn't crazier than when brand was like, let's watch all 40 Hallmark movies and make a podcast and a career about it. It worked, you know? That's right. Laura says she's going to make a Gilmore Girls mask so it can be a masquerade ball. Oh, nice. Thank you, Laura.

[00:20:57] Laura really just not helping at all. Here we go. Let's break this episode down. Let's start with a hot take. Chad, what did you think of this episode? This episode was a lot of fun. When you guys were younger, did you ever read those choose your own adventure books? I absolutely love those books. Okay. Of course. This one kind of reminded me of those because you're almost seeing like this alternate ending, you choose your own adventure. So it starts off with Dan's absolute favorite thing, which would be friendly fire, Richard and Emily fighting a ton. Yeah.

[00:21:27] And just like taking each other out. So I was thinking of you during that, Dan. But we have Rory coming into high society, this big debut, and she's not doing it because she wants to. She's doing it because Emily, her grandmother, wants her to, which was sweet. But we see this weird alternate universe that they didn't leave high society and instead they're entering it. And it could have come off as ridiculous. It comes off as really sweet because they bring back Christopher. And this even makes more of this alternate universe. It's like as if they stayed together this whole time.

[00:21:57] But he's grown up. He's got the Volvo. He's the rebel now. And it's very charming to see. And again, I was just thinking this is a hard one for Dan because it's a very Emily and Richard heavy episode. And it was just cool because we explore a whole side, this whole other world out there that exists, but we don't see it all the time because we're stuck in Stars Hollow. But here's the other side of it. And it's more like, OK, what if we do follow Emily and Richard's path? Really interesting to me. All right. OK. I can see that.

[00:22:28] You guys were giving looks. I thought I had the wrong episode. No, it was when you said that Chris has a Volvo and he's the rebel now. I don't understand. Well, he's a rebel. I thought he was a rebel when he had a motorcycle and didn't want a job. Now he has a Volvo and you're calling him a rebel. That might have been misspeaking. He's a rebel of his own. That's what I was trying to figure out is like, what about getting a nine to five and driving a Volvo makes you a rebel? I know. I was like, wait a minute.

[00:22:56] Sometimes the most hardcore thing you can do is to get a nine to five. You get it. Right. Yeah. No. Well, the inside member, they're loud speakers. Very rebellious. Very rebellious. And safety, though. Safety is important. You know, those are very safe. Dan's. I was hoping when I said that that was a time my microphone cut out, but it didn't. So he's a rebel. He's a rebel. Loud and clear. But now he is. Loud and clear. I really like this episode. I have had so much fun watching this episode.

[00:23:24] The Emily Richard fighting stuff. I don't know. I enjoy it. I enjoy seeing those two argue. There's just two such great talents. And to see those two performing and him just getting increasingly flustered. Her finally saying what she's thinking, which is, so what if you have to get another job? Is what? Like him not understanding her world.

[00:23:54] Her not understanding his world. And those two arguing was great. And then, yeah, listen, I love Lorelei and Christopher. And this is, is this episode two that you guys have seen with Christopher? I think he's been in three episodes. Okay. The bachelor party. Yeah. That's that. Yes. But that was just a phone call. Right. So this is the second episode where the two are together. Christopher. Yeah. I love these two together.

[00:24:22] When they, the, the, the chemistry and the sparks that they have just looking at, and you guys know how I feel about Luke, right? You guys know how I feel about Luke. You've made it abundantly clear. Let's say we have, we have Luke, we have Christopher, we have Max Medina. Max Medina. My, my, my, my. I like to me, the chemistry that she has with Christopher is nuts. I think it's better than any of the other two fellas. And I say that as a Luke guy, I like Luke.

[00:24:53] Where do you stand with Luke? I love Luke. I love Luke. But the episodes that she has with Christopher, they're just so much fun together. So, so I really liked, so it's ridiculous. Like Rory, like sometimes Rory does something and I'm like this, it's so dumb that she would do like her wanting to do this and to move forward with it. It's just so silly.

[00:25:17] Like it's, it's, it reminded me a bit of the episode where she plays housekeeper to Dean. Yep. It's like trying to make a point. You're right. Her wanting this coming out party. There's no world. The WTOW ball is opposite of everything that I know about Rory as a, as a character. Yes, correct. But is fun. So. It struck me on a much larger scale that sometimes my kids will stay with my grandparents and they'll get spoiled.

[00:25:43] And my kid will just tell my parents that he likes something that I know he doesn't like. Just because he's just like there and he just is. And so I'll sometimes hear it. And so at home I'll like be like, Oh, you like this now? And I'll get him a bunch of it or something. And he'll be like, I don't like that. I'm like, no, no, no. You told Nana and Papa just to see what happens. That's like it. Like this, the only way this makes sense is her doing this because she kind of knows her mom doesn't want her to do it because her personality is not debutante ball. Yes.

[00:26:12] But she's a people pleaser. She is a people pleaser. Easy one to please her. Yes. Yeah. It just seemed very anti like feminist. One hundred percent. And they do make a point to make fun of that throughout the episode. But I don't think Rory would do this. I'm with you on that. It feels backwards and opposite of everything. But it's still very fun episode for all the reasons that I said. Dano? Yeah. A bit of a mixed bag. I would say, you know, anytime we do one of these episodes with Richard and Emily,

[00:26:43] we have less of the other characters, which sucks. And this one, I think, hits the turbo button on that. We have no Suki, no Michelle, no Jackson, no Taylor, no Kirk, no Paris, basically no Jess. So this is not an episode that is destined to be a classic for me without any of those characters in it. I think that's really, really tough. However, I agree with Brian wholeheartedly about Christopher. I think that I'm just team Chris.

[00:27:13] I shouldn't be. The guy does nothing. He never shows up for his daughter. He's a terrible father. He gets a pass, but Emily and Richard. He's a terrible father. But here's what I think is so impressive about the Lorelei Christopher chemistry. What do you think, Brian? You keep going. I thought I had something. Here's what I think is anytime two folks have a child that they have together when they're

[00:27:42] very young and then they don't stay together there. You can see, I was around, you know, in teaching for 20 years, you see this dynamic from time to time with parents that are divorced, but are in the same room and they live, you know, amicably apart, but together when they need to parent their kid, there is a connection that is undeniable and a chemistry that's undeniable because of the shared experience, even though they know that they cannot cohabitate anymore and they may not love each other anymore. And there's something about these two characters.

[00:28:13] Boy, howdy. And it's more Lorelei than Christopher, too. It comes from her. And I got to be honest, the chemistry, I would have told, you know, Luke can absolutely be fine if he wasn't on the show anymore. Give me Max Medina over Luke any day. But having said that, I'm cool with Lorelei being single and not needing any dude, but

[00:28:39] if she's going to be with a guy, I can't believe I'm saying it. And Christopher. The chemistry of those two is crazy. It is. You're right. It's so, so good. And those scenes are really great. And some of the debutante ball is really good. The big failure of this episode to me was, here I am thinking that the reason Richard is having such a hard time is because he never saw his daughter walk down these stairs and he never

[00:29:08] walked her down the stairs. Like, in my head, I'm like, okay, you might be getting me a little bit, Gilmore Girls. This rich, white, waspy dude really thought he was going to have a moment where he walked his daughter down these stairs. And as wrong as that is for him, I see how he would miss that. And now his granddaughter's doing it and he has these old feelings coming up and he doesn't want to go and he doesn't.

[00:29:37] And like, we're going to have this big, no, my man's just worried he's making too much money and not doing enough work for him. You were thinking he was bummed because it was Christopher doing it, not him. Yeah. I just thought he didn't want to go because it brought up these scars and he was going to have this big moment. No, no, man. He's getting paid more and doing less work. That's the big issue for Richard is he's getting phased out of a company he built with his blood, sweat and tears to ride off in the sunset with a great pension and 401k. I couldn't.

[00:30:06] When that happened, I was like, what if throw something to the TV? I was like, what are we doing? I cannot believe that you want me to have any ounce of respect or care for these two characters. I thought we were building towards something and we weren't, but some of this stuff worked better than, than other parts of it did. Yeah. You've clearly never been a phased out top executive. It's not easy, Dan. It's hard to find a new identity. Yeah. Yeah. I became a podcaster after my high-end insurance company phased me out and you know, it's rough

[00:30:36] the adjustments difficult. So, Hey, Laura in the chat saying on this rewatch 15 years later, she also is liking loose, Luke less so far than she remembers in Christopher Moore. No, no, no, no, no. And she hates herself for it. Don't, don't let, don't let Dan, uh, make you feel bad about liking Luke or wanting six leg pants. Dan, are you eating all of it? Want what you want, like what you like. Listen, I think six leg pants are one of the dumbest things I've ever heard and they make more sense than Laura and I end up with Luke.

[00:31:05] You can clip that and take it to the bank. I will say that clip out of context makes no sense. But we'll see how it goes. Yeah. Six legged pants are going to make sense when we walk out in them and we each have our own pants. And we hit the stair railings because we're walking sideways. That's not. Yeah. You could do it. Rockette style. Rockette. Rockette. Don't the Rockettes do a thing where they're all in pants? I don't know. Google that while I'm just looking, put it out on Craigslist.

[00:31:35] We're looking for six legged pants. One elastic band. Obviously this is a custom job. I'm not saying it's not a custom job. Yes. Of course. No one has this lying around. I did find one pair available. Happened to be in the Greenville area. Six legged Gilmore girl pants. Wow. Perfect. That worked out well. Somebody's. Yeah. Maybe you've already been working on it. All right. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe they heard it. Okay. All right. All the feels. A line in this episode that gave you feels. Chad. There were two.

[00:32:05] One was funny and one had more gravitas. So the first one I'll go with the funny. Worry is telling Lorelai that she went on her grandmother's patio and Lorelai says, oh no, no, you didn't go on the patio. That's like accepting the position of the drummer in spinal tap. Ah. Which when you've seen spinal tap, the drummer always dies. Drummer always dies. He doesn't quit the band. He always dies. And I thought that was such a funny line. And I actually went back and watched the clip where they're interviewing them in spinal tap talking about how the drummers die. One at a gardening accident.

[00:32:34] Spontaneous combustion. Spontaneous combustion. It was so good. So that was great. All time. Yeah. Great one. And then better than a lot of Christopher Nolan movies, which I love. There's a new one coming out. I can't wait, by the way. Big Christopher Nolan guy. Here we go. Seriously. You ever, you know him, Dan? I'm familiar with Christopher Nolan. Yes. I am familiar. Yeah. Do you think that this is spinal tap is better than many Christopher Nolan movies? No. I think that that's a really tough. Okay. No.

[00:33:04] This isn't the show for this. No. Keep going. Chad was trying the needle in those here. And we're not having it. You know the old saying. When you said that, I checked my notes for something you said to make sure I wasn't going to say it. And I'm really sorry. Right. Okay. All good. So the other one was a serious one that had a little more gravitas. This was supposed to be Emily's night for triumph, right? Even though it was her granddaughter. It was really all about Emily. This whole, the ball. Instead, she's miserable.

[00:33:32] And she says to Lorelai, that should have been you up there and nothing's turning out the way it's supposed to. Meaning tonight, the relationship, her marriage, her life. Ooh, that was heavy in one line. I love that Emily thought this was a big moment for her. That's everything that I think of that woman anyway. Yeah. Every time you want to like her, she pulls you back in. Yeah. I'm good. So those are my two.

[00:33:59] The whole conversation that Lorelai has with Roy, when Roy is saying that she wants to do this is very funny. And her explaining like what this is and really what it's all about. And she says this line, it's like animals being up for bid at the county fair, except sheep don't wear hoop skirts. And I love that whole conversation with her. But there's, that was one line that, uh, that jumped out. Dana? Yeah. I have two.

[00:34:26] Uh, one is when, uh, Chris tells Lorelai he's in Boston now and she says, Boston. And he goes, yeah, you know, baked beans, cream pie strangler, which I found very, very funny. And then the other one is, uh, this is like when they convinced Lily Tomlin to do that movie with John Travolta. I had to look that up. Alonzo DiRaldi always talks about how, when he watches Gilmore Girls, uh, he and his husband, Dave White have to look up, go to Google once an episode.

[00:34:50] That was a 1978 movie called moment by moments, uh, where, uh, and it was critically just destroyed real bad, real bad movie per the critics. And so I had to look that up. Those are my two. Um, I just saw a thing, uh, about John Travolta now own race, a bunch of race and him making it his entire identity. Have you seen him in the beret? I've seen him in the beret. What a thing he's doing. He looks good. Yeah.

[00:35:18] Should we do berets also for the live show? One giant one. God. One giant beret. I love this idea. With a mask. I love it. All right. We'll be right back here on Gilmore the Marriott. The Lamarck style. La, la, la, la. Welcome back, everybody. We're talking about Gilmore Girls season two, episode six today, presenting Lorelai Gilmore. It's time for the way one. So we're talking about what in this episode made us go away one. I'll start with you, Chad. All right. I have a few fun ones here. So Jess. That's a fun one, folks.

[00:35:48] I have some fun one alert. Fun one alert. He shows up in this Metallica shirt. And Luke, unless I'm seeing it wrong, Luke tells him to change it. Then they have an entire day. An entire ball goes by. And Luke then notices Jess changed his shirt. So what happened in the intervening 12 hours? Did Jess still wear the Metallica shirt? You're what? Look, Chad, you are 100% on the nose here. You guys don't get freaking pissed. This is the Jess.

[00:36:16] The fact that Jess is in this episode at all is so stupid. They want you to remind you that he's there. Right. I loved. I want to be very clear. I love Jess dressing like Luke at the end of this episode. It's hilarious. But the setup was real stupid. Luke not liking Metallica. That guy lives for Metallica. I don't know if it's so much that he doesn't like Metallica as much as it is that's not appropriate. How? For diner workers.

[00:36:46] He wears a backwards hat and a flannel. He lives by his own standards. But like Luke having a problem with that, I didn't buy it all. And then we see Jess disappear to go change his shirt in broad daylight. And then it's late at night and he comes down changed. It doesn't make any sense. Brandon doesn't make any sense. It does. No, it doesn't. Let me explain why. Because Jess doesn't want to be working in the first place. So what do you do? What do you do? You figure out a way to get out of it.

[00:37:14] So what you all don't know is there's two possibilities here. One, he went to go change his shirt and he decided I'm going to use as an excuse to not show up for the rest of the day until Luke realizes that I'm gone. And then someone calls up, hey, where are you at? Come down here. The dinner rush is here. He comes down to the flannel. Or he did this bit multiple times throughout the day. That's what I thought. He announced the work that you're doing. This is nice. You're doing so much work for this show. Sometimes I'm on a different level.

[00:37:44] I'm on it today. I'm on it with the six leg pants. I'm on it with the one beret for three heads. And I'm on it with this one. So, Brian, you think every 20 minutes he came down with a different band shirt. Like now it's Judas Priest. Then at 1220, Luke doesn't like metal or rock from the 80s. Get out of here. Like the shirts. He likes the shirt. Luke lives for it. He goes home. Right. This is all this guy cares about. It was probably Luke's shirt. Probably. Maybe that's why he didn't like it. Maybe that's why.

[00:38:14] Maybe Jess is slow at buttoning flannels. Who knows? I don't know. That's why it was a wait what? It was perfect. Perfect. The Volvo. Is that some clever product placement? Because he went over. Like they went into it. They went into the sound system. The speakers or whatever inside. Yes. Alpine speakers. That's a good question. I wonder if it was a product. If it was paid for. I actually went and looked it up. I could not find any evidence that it was confirmed. Because they confirmed some other brand deals they had. But not with Volvo. Because they're even like it's taglines.

[00:38:42] They're going, you know what's responsible on the outside. But rebellious on the inside. I was like this is. Yeah. I've known some product pitch people. And that sounded like something they could read all day. I feel like Volkswagen did that a few years ago. With Paul Giamatti and Kieran Culkin. Do you remember this commercial? No. Where Paul Giamatti plays Kieran Culkin's agent. And Culkin is like flying down the road in the Atlas Cross Sport or whatever. And Giamatti's like why didn't you just play it safe and get the Volkswagen? And he swings in and Giamatti's like oh my.

[00:39:09] It's like this classic like you know you can have both thing. So it would make sense that Christopher buying a sedan would buy a Volvo if they're supposed to be party on the outside. Nope. Business on the outside. Party on the inside kind of thing. I don't know. It's the bullet of cars. That's right. Exactly. That would have been the tagline. No it was just interesting. I mean it fit perfectly with the storyline. But it was also really great product placement if that was the case. And then just the last weight what I had was again.

[00:39:37] I didn't grow up in these high end circles like you guys did. Of course not. Yeah. I didn't know debutante balls were still a thing in the year 2000 at all. And I know we touched on that. So Cotillion. Cotillion as I said earlier. Cotillion is alive and well unfortunately. There has to be a way to teach. Cotillion. Cotillion. Cotillion. Cotillion. Cotillion. Cotillion. Cotillion. Important things without. That's my a milli parody track for Cotillion. It's going to drop on Spotify when? When's it? Next week. Next week.

[00:40:07] That's the new reel. I gave you plenty of runway. Name me another one. That's not done yet. I gave you runway to say Christmas a year. And you said seven days it's coming out. It is gold. June 10th. It's dropping. You know what? I'm holding it. We're putting out another Christmas album this year. You're going to wait for it. That's going to be the bonus track. Yeah. It's going to be the bonus track. I, for the life of me, feel like there has to be a million other ways to teach. Cotillion. Cotillion. Cotillion.

[00:40:34] If you want to teach kids like some more high society type. I don't think you should. But if you're going to. There's got to be a way to do it. A nice bar mitzvah. Without some sort of. Bar mitzvah. There you go. Thank you. I just thought I would correct you on this one. Yes, you're right. Either one. Either one. Either one works for me. Trying to not include the girls here. Well, that was unbelievable. Bar mitzvah. Yeah. Bar mitzvah. That's right. It's a bar mitzvah combo. Either way.

[00:41:02] There's got to be a way to do it without it being what Cotillion and Daughter Zoo, like a debutant bowl is. But I think that they both are still alive and clicking. And that is how we still do things. I think that that is just, it's unfortunate. I mean, there are plenty of times to dress. Like proms are great guys. Like juniors. Like there's plenty of places to go and dress up and dance. You heard it from down here first. Proms are great. Like you. Masquerade balls.

[00:41:30] As you're growing up, there's going to be plenty of opportunities to dress up and go to dances without all of this other stuff that's so outdated. There will be a period of your time where you'll go to a wedding once a week. Like there's going to be times. Yeah. You're going to get there. You don't need to get to it. That's right. You don't need to get to it. Get to it. Get to it. You got anything else? That was it. Okay. Um, I, obviously I love Emily and Richard. I've made that up. And I really like Luke.

[00:42:00] Um, but Emily just go to the events alone. If they make this point of her friends being like, where have you been? You can see how I thought Richard was going through stuff. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. No, 100%. And honestly, Dan, I, I, I, I believe that they, this, so this storyline of him being phased out, it is going to be a story. Cool. Okay. Great. Thrilled. But I believe they could have. Nothing like corporate downsizing. Yeah, man.

[00:42:29] I'm really concerned about Richard and his wellbeing financially and how he finds worth and significance in this crazy mixed up universe of ours. Thanks, Dan. I appreciate that. Um, I believe they could have waited because he's already had a moment or two like this, where he kind of sees life has passed him by or a moment of potential regret or frustration or whatever.

[00:42:55] And so it would make sense that he would hear that Rory is having this and then be have mixed emotions. I think that's more than, more than fair. Um, uh, but there, her friends are just like, where, like, why aren't you, why weren't you here or there? And she's like, Richard is always working work. Just go to the events. Just go, just go to the events. If your whole thing is, is you love the events that come along with the, with the, the, the high class society, just go to the events.

[00:43:23] And I understand it is, uh, I guess taboo to go to an event sans your husband, but, uh, girl, get out there. Yeah. I like it. Richard here is a crazy move by get out there. What a weird take by what, what, how am I sticking up for him? By, by saying you side with this point that she should just go to these things if she wants to, it's his granddaughter's thing. He should go pick up his tux. I'm not talking about that. There's other events. I got one.

[00:43:53] Like, like when she's in the backyard with her friends, they're asking her about all these different events. If he had just done the thing and gotten his tux and gone to this one, the rest of those wouldn't have been nearly as big of a fight. Right? Like this is the one that makes it blow up. Sure. Yes. She's not used to pushback. Emily is not used to pushback. But the fight, but the fight at the beginning is about a different events altogether. It's another event that she's having to miss because of his work unrelated to the debutant ball.

[00:44:22] So yeah, I'm on team Richard there. And then my, my last one, this is a crazy move, but they're at the debutant ball and they come across this bar and bartender nowhere to be found. And Lorelai goes back there, shakes the shaker once. Doesn't know what's in it. Doesn't know what's in it though. Yeah. I think we're supposed to believe she made a martini. Yeah. I think that's what there's, we're supposed to believe. Because she has a conversation with a bartender in a previous scene.

[00:44:52] But isn't the best drink the kind you just shake and drink and you don't know what it is? That's reckless behavior. It's all like to just like pick up the shake and be like, oh, there's already something in here. Bloop. Here we go. Let's see what it is. Let's get wild. The night was an interesting move. Dano? Yeah. Speaking of Dan, I'm sorry. Before you go, is there any update on the founder's punch that we are having for Bramble Fest? I understand. Why would there be an update, Chad? You are in charge of that. Oh, great. From stem to stern. Everything is on you. Bring something to drink.

[00:45:22] No, no, no, no, Chad. No, Chad. Hot cocoa bar. The rest of this we're having fun with. Hot cocoa bar and founder's punch, you've pretty much promised the people. I'm just letting you know. No, I absolutely, I will just have to replay the tape and make sure. Of course. There's proof. Yes, of course. Yeah. Just in case, bring water. I'll get the Twinkies if we get there. I'll take care of that. Great. Okay. Okay. Good. And apparently I'm taking care of the pants. No one else wants to do the hard work. I'm not doing any of it. Right. I know. I have to find a seat.

[00:45:51] We need to come down for, I have to come down for a fitting now too to make sure. Well, yeah, yeah. We got a fitting, of course. Right. All right. Could have just bought pants online. It's a big deal. I have three, but one of them is kind of, just because I wanted to bring up. Uneinspired. Miss Patty in her one scene does a bit where she talks about spotting while ballroom dancing. Yeah. And she does this Hello Sailor bit that is very funny. Yeah. And I just want to know, did they just know, like, did she have that bit in the holster

[00:46:18] and they wrote the dialogue for, because you don't get that good at that bit just by doing it in one scene. I like, she was so funny and it was so on point. It felt like something from a standup routine that they put into this and she just got to do it. And so I really love that. My other two. Um, why are there zero Chilton kids at the debutante ball? We listen when, when it would make sense.

[00:46:46] There are other kids that get lines in here. We see Rory go to Chilton, Richard and Emily live in the town that Chilton is in. Yes. That is how we understand. The ball, the debutante ball is in that same town. It would stand to reason that other girls, the age of Rory would also be attending the debutante ball and guys for that matter. Why, why is there no crossover?

[00:47:14] Why not use those same friends that she, she has to do the group project with or something. That's where they would come from. That would be where they'd come from. Yes. Are all of these kids at this high class ball, not going to the high class school? I, doesn't make any sense. Like seem like a no brainer way to, I get it. You don't want to pay Paris again. Whatever. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. In the show's defense, we know how many people go to Chilton. You know, there's other kids.

[00:47:42] I just don't like, it just felt like I was, there was a third world created. Paris went to this party when she was five. But all those other girls are still going. Not just the ones that are coming out. They're still there. They go to all of these. Remember they say at the end of it, they're like, we're going to sign you up for the next six of these. There's, you did them all summer. So like, there's a whole succession. Like, like the, this felt like they created a third world. Like a, like there's the world in stars hollow. There's the world with Chilton.

[00:48:09] They created a third one where they should have easily just used all the Chilton kids for this event. Sure. I didn't understand that at all. Lisa in the chat says there, she wants her money back if there's no founders punch. So that's on you chat. I think that's fair. That's true. Lastly, it will be founders punch. It's not on me. Someone's bringing it. You know, this, this is our third Christopher episode and maybe they covered this early. Okay. Is he not paying child support? Not that I know. Is he not like a guy that I said has the best chemistry of Lorelei?

[00:48:39] Is he the worst human on the planet? Never shows up for anything. I was going to bring this up, Dan. When you talked about the people that you've met as a teacher and stuff, the interesting thing about these two and the chemistry that they have is my understanding is they broke up before Rory was even born because his parents were pushing him to and he decided to do what his parents wanted him to.

[00:49:05] So he, they were never like a couple raising a child together. But he still should be paying child support. No, 100%. I'm just saying that's the interesting thing. It's not like they had a life together and then they divorced. Yes, you're right. But they had a relationship and they have a child together. Yeah, 100%. He came from money too. He came from all money. It's an interesting wrinkle that they've never really raised this child together. I do think, I will say this, just like, you know, I think part of the thing with Richard

[00:49:32] and Emily as Lorelei's parents is this was like, it's pitched in this show to a bunch of folks that are probably the same age as Lorelei is. This is just what you do. You have terrible parents who don't really love you unconditionally, but you put up with them because that's what you do. And then the next generation does the same thing. And my problem with those two is that it's not that they exist in the show. I think they'd be great characters if Lorelei found a way and they grew and Lorelei didn't deal with them until they grew. But that's not what's going on.

[00:49:59] This show is kind of pitching that what Christopher does is just kind of what you dealt with. And that's a little terrifying because I think it's true. I honestly think it's this guy we're supposed to believe is doing what he believes the best is and the best is Lorelei has to call him and beg him to show up for his daughter once every one night. Yeah, maybe twice a year. Yeah. And that sucks. This guy sucks. He's not paying any child support. He really sucks.

[00:50:29] It's possible that she didn't want the child support. Yeah, it's possible. And leaving her parents behind when having this baby and wanting to do it herself. She didn't want anything, including the money that's probably coming from his parents. She doesn't want any of that. I still think that he's not doing anything. One hundred. No, that's my thing, Dan. It's shocking to me. They should acknowledge that, right? They should acknowledge that Lorelei didn't take money from her parents for all these years and so she didn't want money for... I would buy that. I would buy that.

[00:50:59] But also, she's also taking money so her kid can go to school. So I don't know. I don't know. There's a whole thing there. Why not ask Christopher? He hasn't paid child support. Maybe he's just poning up for the old Chilton. Because he hasn't had any. He can't even give a job. He could probably get that money from his... She could probably get that money from his parents with fewer strings attached than what she did. Maybe. So there's Angus Volvo monthly payment. No problem. He could lease it. He could have owned it. He should be paying child support now. One hundred percent. Now that he has a job.

[00:51:29] Yeah. That's all I got, Brian. Okay. Let's get to what? Written in the Stars. Written in the Stars. It's where we talk about things. Maybe some thoughts we have for the future or whatever we want to throw here really is. It's a catch all. Chad? I want to know more about that troubadour. So he shows up at the end of the episode and he's just strumming along. He's just there. Nice little rhythm. Just there. It's interesting that they have like a live soundtrack guy there. Does he...

[00:51:57] They did have one episode where they had a town meeting and the troubadours were there. Other than that, they've had no role other than it's just wacky and I guess goes to the town. But I want to know like going forward, does the troubadour have any kind of role? Do we have team troubadours or anything else going on? Or does he just occasionally show up and strum a few cowboy chords? Do you want the answer or do you want to just wait? No, I want to wait. I do want the answer, but I want to wait. So maybe there's something going on. Interesting. Also, yes.

[00:52:25] Another thing with the teams and we have been talking about this. Clearly, the chemistry between Christopher and Lorelai is amazing, right? I mean, that ballroom dance at Miss Patty's was hello, Sailor. That was fantastic. So I started dancing alone. I was watching that group and along. It's pretty cool. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, I have video. I'm going to send it. I'm going to post that. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good. So is there at some point a team Christopher? I know he's dating someone now, but that's not going to last is my presumption. Lorelai really, really likes him.

[00:52:54] She was bummed when she said that Rory wants him back in her life. Is there going forward? I don't hear team Christopher, so I'm making an assumption that there's not. There's not. Yeah, I don't hear that at all. It should be, though. It should be. I'm wondering. Don't answer that either. Don't do it. Yeah. It's crazy you have this knowledge, Bran. The way people talk about Christopher is not a viable option. That's the way people talk. So, you know, maybe we're misreading it. Well, he's, you know, Rory's how long? How old? Six, 15? Yeah. 16. Hasn't been around. Yeah.

[00:53:25] That should tell you everything you need to know. Yeah. Not trustworthy. Really? Just knowing what you know about him now. Yes. When he's around, he's completely lovable. But he also has, you know, 15 plus years in her life of showing who he really is. So when he's around, it's hard not to be drawn to him. I think that's the point. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. For sure. So mine was also Troubadour related, but not like what comes of the Troubadour. The Troubadour does an interesting thing in this episode where she has this conversation

[00:53:53] with Christopher and then she turns around to walk away and the Troubadour is there playing already. Yeah. He was right there. He wasn't there when they walked across. But like he, what, what does, what all does the Troubadour know? What secrets of the town does he keep just by being this guy that is around all the time that's sitting there playing. People kind of forget that he's there. They have these serious conversation, heart to hearts that you pick up on.

[00:54:22] The Troubadour could write a book, I bet, on all the things. Because he wasn't playing. When they talked, he wasn't playing. No. He waited for her to be done and he said, okay, now it's time. This guy has secrets. The town secrets that he could write a tell all book that I would 100% read. But the arguments that happen between Taylor and Luke that we don't get the luxury of seeing all of them, I'm sure. And so I just want, I want the. Tales of the Troubadour.

[00:54:50] Tales of the Troubadour. That's good. Ghostwriter. I like that. That's coming out this Christmas. This Christmas is exactly right. It's heavy on the ROM. Heavy on the ROM. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Mine is, you know, I know that they only are only paying actors like certain fees and limiting episodes, but there's just a clear pecking order for me. Stars Hollow episodes are my favorite. Chilton episodes are next. Whatever this is, is third.

[00:55:17] I still think this is good, but the Stars Hollow episodes with Taylor and Kirk and now Jess and Dean and, you know, Lane and, and, you know, all of these great characters in this small little quaint town at the end with Sufi and Jackson and Michelle. Those are my favorite episodes. Yeah. And the fact that those aren't every week, I is probably how this show got to go for as long as it did.

[00:55:45] But it also, I'm wondering if we get any sort of balance that isn't balanced or if it continues to be like one for you, one for me kind of thing. That's my fascination going forward. Like there's gotta be a point where the budget increases and maybe they can have more. I don't know. I don't know what I'm asking for. I just. Because you have to fill the town every time they have to fill Stars Hollow completely. This episode is like when I eat a brisket sandwich at Bucky's. It's that is good for gas station food, right?

[00:56:12] Like this episode was good for not really being in Stars Hollow at all. That is what this was. And so I'm just fascinated to see if this is still how I feel. And it feels like such a hard change of gears every time we do this or not. All right. And we have to say the decorations in Stars Hollow, like this is, we're getting into autumn again. And it's so fun seeing the town. There was a hint of autumn in this episode. Yeah. It's nice. All right. We did it. Congrats to us. This was a long one. Yeah, it was. Almost like we hadn't done it in a while. That's right. We were excited. Yeah. I don't know. All right.

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