Gilmore Girls - Season 2 Episode 5

[00:00:04] God! Mailbag! Hold me closer, Towne Deans and the Marrier Gilmore! Gilmore the Marrier! La-da-la-la! Episode 5, Episode, Episode, Episode 5!

[00:00:34] Shot, Shot, Shot, Shot, Shot! We are partying here! Episode 5 Shots everybody! If you're listening at home, Iowa bottoms up! Yeah, of course! 6 in the morning somewhere! This is bittersweet because, Chad, you told us. This is the last one you're gonna be on. That's it, yeah. You told us that you're not coming down next week. What? Yes, right. My family wants to see me. We're on vacation this week and we all made it back. And you made us come all the way back up.

[00:01:02] You made us leave our families for vacation and come here. Right. And now you're saying next week you can't make the drive? Because my family, yeah. I'm more like Gilmore, I'm very self-centered. It's all about you. It's all about you. I did come down here like 14 weeks in a row or something. That's true. That's true. You were due. It's gonna feel gross, though, doing it virtually. Right? I know. It's gonna feel gross doing it virtually. You just cut that lee wherever you need to. And we'll be fine. But who knows? Like when we come back together in person for Bramble Fest, are we even gonna still have, are we gonna still have it?

[00:01:31] Yeah, no, we'll have it. We're gonna still have it. We'll have it, yeah. Sometimes you get rusty just doing it virtually. Yeah, exactly. So we're gonna do it for real in pajamas late at night. That's right. Okay? Yeah. And we'll see if we still have it after all the rest from just doing it virtually. Which, so if people don't know, at Bramble Fest, we're gonna do a live episode at night. Everyone's gonna wear pajamas. See, the energy in that room's gonna be frickin' nuts. Watch the episode beforehand. Yeah. Deckthehomework.com slash fest. You can get your tickets to be there in person or virtually. You can also do it virtually.

[00:02:00] I think we can all agree, though, that our biggest concern is that we get an episode like last week for Bramble Fest. Oh, that would be tough. We'll make it fun. Are we gonna wear matching Gilmore pajamas, guys? That's the decision. I think so. Yeah, we probably need to send that out to the double-decker group and have them choose some pajamas that we'll all wear. Oh, that's fun. There you go. Another reason to sign up for Bramble Fest. Do we get one really big pair that we all wear together or three individual pairs? I think we probably should stick with individual pairs, but I could be talked into the other. Okay. I gotta be honest with you. I would be pretty mad if we didn't. I'll do it.

[00:02:30] I said if you two would have one arm out, I'd be in the middle. But how are we all fitting in the pants? Okay, easy. Big dance. I get one leg, Danny, you get the other leg, and you straddle it. Yeah, I'm in both. Yeah. So three legs in each. Right. No, two. Two legs in each. One, two, two, and one. Three legs. Yes. So three legs in each. It's gonna be great. Yeah. Okay, so we just need to find one that fit. Are we wearing Christmas jammies or Gilmore Girl jammies? I think it's up to you guys. Right.

[00:02:58] I think you could probably have Christmas jammies. Well, the people can wear whatever jammies they want. We're gonna wear Gilmore Girls jammies probably if we get that order in. You all do whatever you want to do. Whatever jammies. I mean, keep it classy. Keep it classy. Like, don't. Yeah, that's good advice. Lee Hodo's got a mess on his face today. He's got a lot to do. Yeah. He's got a lot to clip. The old Scott Newman's gonna show up naked. I think Gilmore PJs would be fun. Gilmore PJs would be fun. I sleep naked. Yeah. So are you doing the show? Is that what you're declaring?

[00:03:29] All right. Are we ready? Let's do it, man. The girl season two, episode five is called Nick and Nora slash Sid and Nancy. Infinite playlist. Nope. October 30th, 2001. You're trying on your Halloween costumes. Turn on the WB. Watching Gilmore Girls live. My goodness. Full of commercials. And I want a little something like this. The episode kicks off at Luke's. He gets a phone call and he starts freaking out.

[00:03:56] Apparently, it's his sister and she wants her son, Luke's nephew, Jess, to come. Oh. The Jess? You asked. Unbelievable. Jess. Is it a Jess sighting? It's a Jess sighting. At the very least, it's a Jess mention. It's a Jess mention at the very least. It's coming. Um, she would like for him to come and live with Luke for a little bit. He's a little bit unruly. Could use a little help. Maybe a little, uh, you know, his, his, uh, father's not around.

[00:04:23] A little, a little, uh, a little fatherly advice maybe from Luke. Who could say? Right. Um, and so Lorelei is like, well, like you, you should get him like a real bed, not an air mattress and some sheets. And are you sure you want to do this? This is a big change for you. And Luke is like, I don't get what you're making a big deal out of. It's not a big deal. Uh, it is time for a new school year. Apparently, uh, Paris is still mad at Rory, but they're going to have to work together

[00:04:53] because of the school paper. Jess comes into town and Jess is a punk. He just drops off his bag, snags his book and goes to find a nice bench somewhere as the town is getting ready for fall. It's literally his living hell. Rory shows up for the first meeting of the paper late because Paris gave her the wrong time on purpose.

[00:05:17] Paris assigns her her first story, the paving of the new parking lots. Cause there's no way to make that exciting. Afterwards, she bumps into Max and she awkwardly just walks the other way. So I guess Max knows that he's not getting married. Uh, Lorelei. That's how we found out. That's how we found out. I wonder what that was about. Yeah. Hey, stepdaughter. Uh, Lorelei invites, uh, Luke and Jess over for dinner as a little welcoming party for Jess.

[00:05:47] Suki can come make dinner. She's not doing anything. Uh, Jess is a bad boy. Ooh. Bad. Say it again. Luke is a bad boy. Ooh. Uh, Luke comes upstairs. He has snacks all over the bed. Jess does. Jess is smoking a cigarette inside. And when Luke tells him that they're going to dinner, he just walks out without saying anything. I don't eat dinner. I'm on a low calorie diet.

[00:06:17] Food is a, I'm straight edge. I don't eat food. Uh, Rory turns in her, uh, her first assignment and the teacher in charge absolutely loves it. Anybody who can take such a mundane story and make such a beautiful masterpiece. I mean, they should be getting into the top, the cream of the crap. What was that? Rory. Rory. Did you make it? Oh no. It definitely was. It sounded a little like it. It sounded a little rough. No. No. Yeah. Not again.

[00:06:46] You were talking about making your hair dreadlocks this morning. They were in red, gold, and green all morning. So weird. Yeah. It's weird. Well, I want to be respectful. Okay. Uh, Rory sarcastically says, I owe it all to Paris. Paris gives her her next assignment, a story that everybody wants a front page story, an interview with the teacher of the year, Max Medina. Uh, it's dinner time and Jess meets Rory and is immediately like, you want to bail? And she's like, no, it's going to be fun.

[00:07:15] And he decides that he's going to snag a beer out of the fridge and go drink it on the back porch. Nice. Lorelai finds him and gives him a talking to, you know, just give Luke and stars hollow a chance. It's going to be great. And he sasses her real good. And she goes inside to tell Luke about what happened. And he takes Jess side in all of this and storms out the next morning. Lorelai makes Rory go, go and go. Rory. Rory. Here we go. Go, go, go. Funny. You got stopped on the word go. Yeah.

[00:07:46] Like the next morning, Lorelai makes Rory go into Luke's to snag some coffee and a pastry so that she can avoid Luke. But Luke only gives her enough for herself because I know what you're doing. You're not getting out of this one. Uh, but then Luke gets a call. It's Taylor and Jess is up to no good. Thefting stuff. Uh, it's time for Rory to interview Max Medina. They have a moment together. I was looking forward to you being my stepfather. I was looking forward to you being my stepdaughter.

[00:08:15] It was a nice moment for the interview, I guess. I'm interested to see how she works it in the article. Uh, Luke goes to talk to Jess and they get into a massive argument and then Luke just pushes him into the water. Naturally, he runs over to Lorelai to tell her that she was right the entire time. He's in way over his head. He goes, uh, gets a little pep talk from Lorelai and he goes to parent hard. Jess is like, thanks, but no thanks. Gotta go. He bumps into Rory on the way out and does some magic.

[00:08:46] I don't know, man. I didn't see that coming. And then gives her a book that he stole from her house, proving that he reads a ton. He did her the service of writing notes in her. That's exactly right. And then he goes his own way. And that, my friends, was good work. I'll see the new episode. I'm Nick and Noah. I'm Sid and Nancy. Sid and Nancy. We did it. Dan, do you want to answer that question before we move on?

[00:09:14] Holly in the chat says, do we get to pick your jammies? Um, we'll give them options, I think. Yeah. Or if they come up with options, we can approve. I'm not letting Holly come up with. Holly is not picking. I'm not letting Holly. I say carte blanche. Whatever they pick, we wear. As long as it's Gilmore Gil. Don't leave Carte out of this. He's a freewheeling, no good. No, he's a bad guy. I'm down whatever you pick. He's a terrible dude. You clearly have a Matt Garp. No, you have a Matt Garp. No. He gets out of hand in a hurry. Really? He wants to go to one Applebee's, the next thing you know, you're on the roof of that Applebee's.

[00:09:44] Oh my. Okay. All right, I'll watch it then. All right, let's take a break. We'll come back. The whole Blanche family, really, but he's the worst. Really? Sorry, back to you, Branche. A la is pretty bad too. That's a bad too. Yes, buddy. A la carte. That's him coming out. Not a la Blanche. Right. That's not what that's not. A la carte. Yeah, let me clarify. Yeah, yeah. Oof. Hi, everybody. Welcome back. We're talking about Gilmore Girls season two, episode five. Season two, episode five. Let's talk about the hot takes. I've got to get on the road.

[00:10:13] Let me share exactly what I thought about this episode. Chad, what'd you think about this one? All right, we are back. I love this episode. This was a lot of fun. We covered a lot of ground. Yes. After a lackluster episode four. Okay, a breather. Maybe we needed it. It starts off, first of all, late summer, early autumn in a really late summer in Stars Hollow. Just looking resplendent. It's known for fall and autumn and everything. I love that word. And a lot like that. A lot like that. Yeah. Yeah, it really has. So we're back though.

[00:10:43] They're done with all their, their, their, their Harvard stuff. Remember spring? Remember all the flowers? Unbelievable. Season premiere with all the flowers. Spring and summer. They blazed through and just a couple of episodes. Yeah. I hope they linger in fall for a while. That's New England for you though. It's just. It all is leading to fall. You don't like the weather? Wait, 40 minutes as they say. Yeah. That's it. That's it. So here we go. Rory and Paris finally come to grips that they will have to coexist. It's Emily in Paris. Rory is on the Gilmore House.

[00:11:12] Right, exactly right. You're right. I'm conflating my shoes. That's coming up soon. Emily in Paris, the Marrier. The Marrier, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. We are doing this. After. It's the late, late show. We need the pajamas. It's the 138. Everyone's getting back. Emily in Paris covered. We're going to cover it. Yeah. In pajamas. Emily in Paris pajamas. That's right. Yeah. That's going to be great. All Eiffel Towers. So they have to coexist. Paris though. She's so evil. She's not having it. She's got some tricks up her sleeve, but here's the big thing of this episode.

[00:11:41] I've been waiting my whole life for this moment. We finally meet Jess. Where's that button going? We finally meet Jess. Say it again. Say it again. We finally meet Jess. Oh, he did a rim shot first. Oh, okay. He was getting the bone first. We finally meet Jess. I did it. I got it. I can't hear. Mailbag. So, right. So interesting intro to him. He's giving tough guy, but in sushi and vibes because he's kind of like, ugh, I'm tough, but what's going on with these lovely autumn decorations looking around?

[00:12:11] It was kind of cool. I like that. Smoke cigarettes and read the same book 40 times. Yeah. At least I love the leaves. Gosh, I love the leaves. He doesn't smoke as much as dangle. Did you notice that? Yeah. He's a dangler. Uh-huh. So anyway, we're not sure how he'll fit in. At first, he comes off as very unlikable. I didn't like him at all. Rory gets her comeuppance with the paving story, which is oddly satisfying over Paris. I liked that because she made that story interesting. You guys could do that. You take things that aren't interesting and make them interesting. I think you'd be good. I'm assigning to both of you. Write a paving story.

[00:12:41] A paving story. Before. Yeah, for Bramble Fest. Believe it or not, I found this out yesterday. Did you know that they paved paradise? What they did? They put up a parking lot? Yeah. I heard that. You did. You did. I heard. They decided parking lot. Right. Isn't that crazy? Over paradise. Wow. That's crazy. That's unbelievable. Yeah. I was just wondering where they put all the trees. Turns out museum. Dude, give me spots on my apples and forget DDT and give me the birds and the bees.

[00:13:11] Yeah. I read it. You get it. Wow. That's right. Does anyone have a 12 string guitar? Oh man. Don't it always seem to know. That's right. You don't know what you've got till it's gone. You get it. You get it. You understand. So anyway, where were we? Something about it come up in. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Likewise, brutal and kitchen to lovelies. What did Dan Brand? You read this one? Everyone told. Like, like, likeness, brutal and kitchen to lovelies telling her she had bad decision making. Yeah.

[00:13:40] So you make, that makes sense, right? Yeah. Hot take right there. You didn't even speech to. Is that a follow up voice? Yeah. It really is. So it's a title. Track three, likewise, brooding kitchen to lovelies. Oh, wonderful track. Right. That's one of the shorter titles. That's right. I love how similar in attitude and mannerism, Jess and uncle Luke are. Uncle Kirk. When she's, when he pushes him off the dock, it's fantastic. Thankfully, it didn't auto correct that into something else.

[00:14:09] He pushed him off something else. Pushed him right off the dock. Yes. Yes. Jesse gives her the copy of Howl by Allen Ginsberg, as my notes say, Allo Ginsberg, he's the one that has no sunburn issues. Uh, and he's read it 40 plus times. He's a bad boy. Now we're all love with, with him. Game on Tristan. Game on Dean. Let's go. I love it. Does Chad do LSD before taking this? Listen, this is for his cousin, SPF Ginsberg. Yes.

[00:14:37] Those two, like you can't get a tan on them. No, right? They are just. Worse than the Blanche family. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Uh, and to answer the chat, Holly, does Chad do LSD before making his show notes? Just cuppa with mushrooms, functional mushrooms. What mushrooms are in there? They're functional. Right. I got Chad on my, he, Chad brings tea, loose leaf tea that I've tried and now I've got him on my functional mushroom coffee. And clearly I'm baked out of my gorg. Yeah. Just lost. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. He's going to drive after this. I'm going to write some music. Yeah. It's going to be good stuff. Yeah. Awesome.

[00:15:07] Um, so I don't think it's any surprise to people that I love this episode, a heavy Luke episode. Hmm. I mean, that's your boy. Am I in heaven right now? Uh, really excited about the introduction of Jess, whether or not I'm team Jess is neither here nor there. Mm hmm. This is a, a, a fun character at the, at just at face value here in this first episode,

[00:15:35] this punk kid too cool for school clearly needs some tough love, but also he's wicked smart, but he doesn't want you to know it. No, I don't know it. Like that. That's right. That's just, that is the makings of what will be a fun character. I'm sure of it. And it's not just cause I've seen the show. Um, so just a really fun episode for me as a Luke fan, as a Jess fan, and as a fan of this show can't ask for much more. We're back baby. Oh yeah.

[00:16:05] What'd you think of that casting too? I thought he really came off as Luke's Luke's. Excellent. Excellent. 100%. Um, so I would say that it's way better than last week's episode, which I didn't like. Um, I would have to say this episode's like a TBD for me. I like it's a heavy Luke episode. And so not exactly my, it's good TV. My cup of tea. Um, I will say that I was underwhelmed by the introduction of Jess.

[00:16:34] I want to withhold judgment because, um, every character in this show ends up getting a really great personality and delivers amazing lines. And in this one, he's just super over serious and brooding. And like, as a Tristan replacement, which is what this is, you can call it whatever you want. Trent Tristan, Chad, Michael, Maria places to be. This is the new Tristan. Right. Um, I was a little underwhelmed.

[00:17:03] I don't need a brooding emo dude who smokes cigarettes and drinks beer and breaks all the rules, but also reads the same book 40 times. Like I wasn't terribly impressed. Now I do think that the guy's a good actor. And I do think that having this character is a bit of like Rory kryptonite. It's like the opposite of Dean in a lot of ways. And so I say TBD because I do believe that Jess, if he starts delivering lines, like everyone

[00:17:33] else in the show, the thing about Amy Sherman, Palladino and Aaron Sorkin is, is you deliver their lines. And so everyone has that in common. And so when someone comes in and doesn't do that, doesn't snap with everyone else, it doesn't feel right. And so he doesn't feel right to me right now, but I know he's beloved. And I, my guess is Milo Ventimiglia is a great actor. He was even good. And I can only imagine to the deuce.

[00:17:59] So I think I'm going to end up in retrospect, liking this episode. Once I start, Jess starts acting like he's in an Amy Sherman Palladino show as it stands right now. It's just kind of weird. Um, I just kind of laughed at him. I didn't think he was, it was just like, he was just trying to be really like, I don't know. I just kind of thought it was funny. Like if you didn't know hearing team Jess, you wouldn't think he'd become this. No, if I had not heard team, I wish I wouldn't have. Right.

[00:18:27] I wish I didn't know that this guy was beloved because I would have been like, who's this loser? Like immediately. So I, because I know how much he's beloved, I have to feel like he's going to get on board with the rhythm of the, this show has a rhythm. I can say I don't like Luke, but when Luke and Lorelai are arguing, that is how everyone argues in this show. And they still managed to be their own characters. Right? It's like Emily and Lorelai argue, Lorelai and Rory argue, Rory and Dean argue. They all argue rat-a-tat-tat.

[00:18:56] It is the calling card of this show. He's got to get on board with that. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't. It's going to be bad. But maybe that's the point, Dan. Maybe he's so freaking different. He's punk rock. He's punk rock in every way. He reads the same book 40 times and he leaves notes so girls can understand he reads. He annotates their notes, their books for them. Yeah. Let me, let me mansplain you this book I've read 40 times. Uh, yeah. I don't know, man. We have, it is.

[00:19:22] We have Dean who can't read, but is nice and safe. But we have Jess who read lots, but not safe. Not safe. Are we done with Tristan totally? Is he done with the show? This is the Tristan replacement. Oh, really? For sure. That's like that one season of Stay by the Bell. They replaced, uh, who is it? Jesse Spano. That's right. With Tori. Yeah. What a, what a, what a downgrade. Yeah. Um, but the summer at the beach with Leah Remini, I think was an upgrade.

[00:19:51] I think the Leah Remini characters whose action have ended up with, if you listen to back to Bayside, you'd know that. Shout out. Back to Bayside. On my drive home. I'll be listening. Yeah, for sure. Um, slowly. No, I just think like if Jess will start, like if you're going to be in the show, you have to be willing to play with the dialogue. And that's what I'm worried about. But if he gets on board with that, I think it could be really fun because he's the opposite of Dean and virtually every way. And for Dean, a guy that works at a, uh, a supermarket and can't read, he can manage to. Yeah.

[00:20:20] And also not to mention he can't do magic. So yeah. Right. Yeah. Interesting. Clock one up for our boy. That was weird for a bad boy to do a queen trick. There's so much about him that isn't bad boy. I think that's the problem is, is that like, what is he? He's trying to put on a, on a man, a thing. Okay. Maybe he, yeah, he put totally. I'm not saying I'm not team Jess. I'm saying this was an inauspicious start to the run of Jess in this show. That's all I'm saying.

[00:20:50] There's nothing more bad boy than magic. That's true. If you don't think so, I'll make you disappear. If Luke did magic, you'd marry him. Try and stop me. He does. He might've taught his nephew magic. We don't know. Yeah. That's a great point. Right. All right. It's time for the feels. A line in this episode gave us a little bit of feels. Chad. Okay. And then she walks in telling Lorelai, I hate her. Lorelai goes, Oh, me too. Or he goes, you don't even know her.

[00:21:20] And Lorelai goes solidarity sister. And I just love that. It wasn't a single line. It was a great succinct writing, but it was at the very core of the show summed up in this one thing. I have your back. I don't know who it is. No matter what solidarity. I thought that was really cool. It was written in Iambic tentrameter. No, right. Tentrameter. Of course. Yeah. Which we know. We're big. Very nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought that was really cool. Oh, boy. Uh, oh, okay. At this. What a dot miss. What dot miss.

[00:21:49] Uh, do ish. I got it. I'll take it from here. Don't worry. Dan's got my next line here. What dot miss. I die ish with it a coffee. So goes the eternal question. Right. That was you. I got that on my fortune cookie yesterday. This is listen. And we say that around here all the time. It's our business motto. What dot miss. What dot miss. Uh, do ish. With it a coffee. And so goes the eternal question. That's right. You know what I mean? So my parents said it to me. Their parents said it to them.

[00:22:18] I said it after I had a lobotomy. Yeah. What dot miss. That's cup before you. Dan and I grew up in different states. Parents told us to say that. What dot miss. It's one of those things that cross the state lines. And so goes the eternal question. And these are not voice text. This is me typing. This is you. We should post. We should just do screenshots of my notes. That would be fun. So goes the eternal question. Yes. What is the. What's our handle? At Gilmore the Marrier Pod. Maybe you guys can help make heads or tails on that. Yeah. Anything else? I mean what more. I've said it all.

[00:22:47] So goes the eternal question. What miss. It should come as a surprise that my, my feels involves a Luke related line, which he, you know, he said some, he freaked out on Lorelai. The chat says I have that as a tattoo. That's great. That's funny. He freaks out on Lorelai. You don't get to tell me blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. He comes running back, of course. And it's like, you were right.

[00:23:13] And he says, I'm so in over my head that I can't even see my own hat. And Lorelai says, maybe try turning it around. Very funny. Very funny. Mine is also, it's not a very funny thing. Very specific line, but the back and forth when Lorelai gets mad at Jess out on the porch comes in and Luke and Lorelai go back and forth. Great scene. Best scene of the episode. No question. And when she like, she says, tells Jess, I wish I had a pie so I could put it, put it

[00:23:42] in your face. And then when Luke is getting mad, she just goes, two pies. And he's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. But also like his, them having the relationship enough for him to immediately bring out because you have a teenager doesn't mean, you know, parenting. You had her when you were 16. Maybe that's a lack of judgment. Like that wasn't saved for some big denouement. That wasn't saved for like episode 20. That's episode five, 20 minutes in. Yeah.

[00:24:09] Luke's just like, one minute into parenting. Yeah. It just is like, I got, now this is happening. Get off my back. She didn't even get mad at him. No, it was. Yeah. It was pretty like, yeah, well, very brother sisterly versus like, very brother sister. For sure. Loving relationship. All right. Let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll get to the way what and the written in the stars hollow here on Gilmore the Marrier. Hold me closer. Town of Dean. It's in my head. Yeah. Hi, everybody.

[00:24:39] Welcome back. Eternal Question. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. It's time for the wait what is where we talk about what in this episode made us go away what, Shad? If you can read your notes. That is the wait what. What am I writing? What are my notes? Yeah. I was shocked. Max is Rory's teacher again. That's wild. Big wait what. A record stretch. Maybe they were right. Max Medina. To initially be like, hey, we can't do this. We were like, just wait until the end of the school year. No, no, no. You wait until she graduated. Right.

[00:25:09] It was like obscure Russian poetry. To have the same English teacher two years in a row. I had a graduating class of 59 kids at my Christian school in Simpsonville, South Carolina. I didn't have the same English teacher two years in a row. Max Medina teaching Rory two years in a row. I don't know how. I don't know what we're doing. Yeah. Crazy. Maybe he got in at the end of the semester. He's like, let me be her teacher. I'll be her stepfather at that point. Not knowing what would happen over the summer. He was volunteered. Right. Maybe.

[00:25:39] I don't think that's how that works though. So go in the administration and go, hey, my stepdaughter. Right. Right. Probably would avoid her. Right. Keep that separation. It was weird. It was. Wait, what? It was weird. My other way. What was just Jess casually sitting in the room smoking? I mean, early 2000s were people just chilling inside like smoking. Dude. This is so freaking cool. You guys don't get it. You're right. You're right.

[00:26:03] This character, like the way that they want to establish this character is such a tryhard. Right. They could have been a lot more mysterious and like left more to his silence than what they did. And it's just, I don't know. I feel like I'm going to come around him because he's a good actor. But right now I just was very like, let's have him smoking a cigarette in the room. Like, stop it. What do you guys think about during our live show at Bramble Fest coming up? We smoke the whole time. We smoke.

[00:26:33] We start smoking. We eat the Twinkie, which is worse. One cigarette. What about a cigarette in the Twinkie? Yeah. Like you bong it up. Yeah. Not that I would have ever, but you know what I mean. You smoke it right through it. Yeah. We could try. You get those preservatives in with the nicotine. So that's a yes. I think it is. Maybe they cancel each other out because it preserves you. And I'm sure the Hyatt that doesn't allow smoking or dunk tanks, I think they're going to be great. You're making a lot of assumptions. I think they're going to be tricky. What if we use a towel? Right. Exactly. We have a towel. We just put the ashes down on the towel.

[00:27:00] Just keep telling the manager, the Hyatt, Michelle, listen, we have a towel. We have a towel. I did give you heavy damage. That's offensive somehow. I'm French. You're French? I'm French, yeah. What part? I was in Nice one. Your last name is Cousin. It's not Cousin. First of all, it's not, but it would be Cousin would be the original. Cousin you mean? Yeah. Cousin. Cousin. I have two.

[00:27:25] One, first day in the newspaper room, Paris and Rory are really going at it, being very snarky to each other. This teacher does nothing. Teacher, you have to. You have to step in and be like, girls, we're not going to do something. Like the cattiness was on another level between these two. And the teacher's just like, kids, am I right? It's wild to me, not stepping in there. And then here's an interesting thing that happened.

[00:27:55] And this was crazy to me. Luke gets, finds Jess after school. Right. And he's like, he's mad at them because Taylor called him up about the stealing or whatever. And, you know, like skipping class and stuff. And he's like, I hate, basically, he's like, I hate this place. And then he says, I hate going to a school that makes you say the Pledge of Allegiance in six different languages. Right. Talking about Stars Hollow High.

[00:28:25] What? What? And what were the six? What were? Let's guess. If you were to tell me that Chilton is making you say the Pledge of Allegiance in six different languages, I would be like, okay, I get maybe. That's how you learn maybe a language. Stars Hollow High making you say it in six different languages is crazy. Maybe I missed something that would lock that line in place to make sense. But currently I got nothing. Dan, I'm interested. You're right. I only have really two.

[00:28:53] One is, and I feel like this is a recurring theme on the Gilmore Girls. Like what time of day is it? Is it a school day? Is it not? I appreciate how unabashed this show is about not caring about making that stuff make sense. Right. The beginning of this episode has Lorelai talking to Rory at Luke's Diner. Rory is dressed in her Chilton uniform and she is about to go to school. It is established through dialogue several times.

[00:29:22] She's about to leave to go to school. Mm-hmm. Lorelai says, I'm going to stand up and go get some donuts to take to work. Everyone is starting their day. Right. School day, weekday. In walks Trent. What's his name? Terry. Taylor. Taylor. There it is. Whatever time in the morning. 7 a.m.

[00:29:51] 7, 8 in the morning. Right. Guys, what's happening? Like they, they've just decided on this show. Anybody can do anything at any time. Like these kids would definitely be in school. They would definitely not be ordering a burger and fry on a school day at a restaurant. Like Rory's like, it was, it's, it's crazy. It boggles the mind how they just decide. We don't care. We're just going to write it in there. The only thing that might work is Chilton was on a slightly different schedule than the public school. And then the diner serves everything all day long. So there you have it. They all want burgers and fries. We did it.

[00:30:21] And then lastly, I want to be very clear. Two weeks ago when Max Medina moved in for a weekend, they were shocked at all the things that the oven could do. And in this episode, they are opening the oven and pulling things out like it is second nature to the Gilmore girls. Right. So there's that. They learn fast. And then also I will say like, to show that Jess is secretly a literature bug. He's a real, he's got the reading bug and he knows how to comprehend.

[00:30:48] And you know, I, to show that, uh, especially after Rory looks at him and goes, don't touch like he does the trick, pulls the coin out behind here. And she's like firmly like, Hey, how about never do that again? Like I don't, that's an unwanted touch. And it was a great, it's a great scene to have him go, Hey, I helped explain this novel to you. Are you kidding me? Like Rory's the smartest kid at Chilton, right?

[00:31:13] This dude comes out of town and goes, I explained the book to you, sweetheart. Just letting you know, like I wrote you like, this will help you. Like this will help you. If you read it again, like I've, I've, I've made it make sense for you. Don't worry. To be clear, to be clear though. He never touched her. He, she was getting ahead of it. Yes. He made it. Correct. He is not. No, no, no, no, no. She, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was getting ahead of it. She said never do it again. He made the coin disappear. Yes. And she said, if you pull that out of my ear or somewhere, it doesn't matter. Of course.

[00:31:43] You're 100% right. I just want that to be on the record. Of course. But he's a bad guy. The mansplaining literature to show how cool you are was just a move that I could, that was the, I'm sorry. I said bad guy. He's bad boy. He's bad boy. That was the death knell for this. My first impression of him, but I think he can recover. Okay. Uh, it's time for written in the stars hollow. That's where we talk about things and stuff that don't fit anywhere else. And we're like, here it is. Now it's written in the stars. All uh, Chad, what else you got?

[00:32:12] So I want to know when, because obviously at this point we do not see Rory and Jess necessarily becoming an item until we see that he annotates books for her, which is a big major turn on. Yeah. So, but now I thought she had, well, when you're, when your current boyfriend is such a dumb hit, right? It's like, Oh my God. Can't read it all. That's right. That is a big move. I love that contrast right there. That's cool. Great writing. Um, so I thought she now had three potential interests, Dean, Tristan, and Jess. No, she doesn't just Dean and Jess.

[00:32:42] That's enough. So will Jess and Dean become enemies? Like how does he mesh himself in the town? There's so many possibilities. Yeah. Let's make bets. How long does it take for Dean and Jess to get into a fist fight like Dean and Tristan did at the. Right. I don't think it, I don't, I don't know if it happens. Okay. I mean, but clearly you're bringing it up. No, no. I was just bringing it up because he did get in a fight with Tristan. Do you think it happens with? I think they, I think they come, I think they come close to blows.

[00:33:12] At least close. Close maybe. Yeah. Close close. Because Dean, we've seen fight with Luke. We've seen him fight with Tristan. Oh yeah. Almost. So he's a bad boy too in his own sense. He's just an illiterate bad boy. So a little different. Yeah. So a lot of possibilities there. Rory's article, you touched on this brand. Does she, Rory's article on Max Medina. Does she touch on her own personal relationship with him? She would have to, as someone covering him disclose, you know, if she's going to be a real journalist

[00:33:40] disclose, Hey, I know personally I may have colored this, this article. I think the pro you'd have to disclose it. Yeah. Yeah. You got to, you have to tell us as a journal, if you're a journalist, uh, I think Rory, the better end of that episode is Rory writing an article so good because she starts by going, Hey, this is what happened. And this guy's still a good teacher. Right. That would have been justice for Max Medina, which I can't believe I'm saying out loud, but the guy needs justice for Max. Yeah. You know what I mean? I like that.

[00:34:09] Stand up guy turns out aside from the whole making out with the students. Bit of a punching bag. Yeah. Just get run over. We're getting married. Okay. We're moving in. Okay. I'm moving out. Yeah. You didn't even bother to get a spine Max. Um, will you marry me? I'll tell you in a couple of weeks. Right. Okay. Let me know. Yeah. And two more questions. I end every show with, we found out where Tristan is. Well, not necessarily. And so goes the eternal question. Exactly. But there is one more eternal question that will not be answered yet.

[00:34:37] They move him into the guest house behind the inn where Lorelai used to live and then Rune disappears. Where is Rune? Why would they bring him back? Does he come back? I do really want to know at this point, he's become a bigger character in my mind than probably on this show. Rune Cook. Exactly. His brother. Do we see Rune Cook or Ryan Cook first? Oh, good question. Really good. Um, my question is we see Jess do one magic trick. How far, how deep does it go? Right.

[00:35:06] Like what was the, what could he put on a full show? Is he going to be doing kid parties? Um, could he perhaps if a fight does present itself, can he make himself disappear? These are all questions. Or is it just, I can make a coin disappear. Could you imagine back before he moved to stars hollow if he was like his whole persona was like, Oh, I'm a magician. And he did that. And then he went back way back before moving. That's the flashback I want to see. Yeah. I'm going to try something new. I mean, that's the whole thing here is it's like, he's like doing, he's thieving

[00:35:34] under the guise of like making things disappear. I stole your book. Right. I, the gnome, where did it go? The, so it's like, it's all magic to magic. It's magic. It's all magic. That's a good defense in court. I think it's a magic trick. I was going to bring it in my defense. Yeah. Um, so if behind your, listen, I don't, I am not team Luke. Uh, but he did make, he did make Lorelai brand.

[00:36:00] And if they were to, uh, end up getting together and get married, then Jess and Rory are cousins. Right. Kissing. Oh, in theory. Right. I just, that, that's it. Christmas cousins. They're cousins by marriage. They're cousins. Uh, they're not Christmas cousins. No, they're just cousins. It's not the holidays. See the couple, give it a couple months. Um, so there's that. We got that to think through. Hmm. That would be, that would be a really weird trickle. Yeah.

[00:36:30] Interesting wrinkle going. Yeah. And you got to think about that. If you are going to be a team person, if you're going to be like, if you're a team Luke, you can't be him. Yeah, that's right. You can't. I mean, you could, they're not by blood. They're not related. They're not. A lot of that doesn't count in the chat here, which it, it doesn't, but also it's not, not weird. Right. It'd be like going back to the Tudors or the Medici's or something. Right. All of a sudden they're all intermarrying. That would be cool. What a twist. What a twist. Uh, we did it. Everybody congratulations to us.

[00:37:00] Uh, congratulations not to us though, because next week Chad's not going to be here in person. Hmm. We're going to have to go back there. But I will be wrong way. You know what I mean? I know, but I will be for Bramble Fest in our pajamas. That's right. It's going to be a lot of fun. Coming back next week, episode six. We're cruising right along here season two. Coming back. Will you? Until then, Gilmore and be merrier. Gilmore the merrier is a Bramble Jam podcast presented, produced by Brandon Gray.

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